In your song “Rome,” you describe a city that was once beautiful but is now decaying. As the song progresses, we realize it mirrors a relationship. How intentional are these things?
TM: You have all of these ideas that are very different and you want to put them together, but you need to find some sort of glue that holds them together. So something that we really enjoy is to delete almost everything in between. All the things that make [the narrative make] sense. That’s something that’s impossible to do in French, because every word carries the weight of time and space. But in English, you can erase what’s in between, so it makes it easier. I guess maybe Hank Williams—Laurent gave me a book of Hank Williams lyrics for my 18th birthday—and I just loved how simple it is and how every word is independent so you can just mess with the whole thing. Suddenly, your “heart can be filled with tears” and so on…
His lyrics are very distilled.
TM: That’s something that is impossible to do in French. Because if you just said “My heart is filled with tears,” it would be, “My heart would have been filled with tears that I cried before…”
Maybe my favorite moment when we make a record is when you have a verse and you like the melody a lot, and you have the words for it, and you have too many verses. This rarely happens to us; I wish it happened more. You know when you hear a Bob Dylan song and he goes on forever and he has so many verses that are amazing—it doesn’t fit our music. It’s almost like helium in a gas tank or something where things are free and spread in a very dense environment. You have a lot of lines to put down but you have to make decisions. There are only going to be two or three verses so I have to use this or I can’t use that. And that’s why it’s very important that there are the four of us because I can’t decide on my own. You need input, you need to know which one will be the most like a trademark, or which one is the most unusual. And then, the repetition in every verse is very playful. Once you have the main structure it becomes this big playground where you come back to places. Whether it’s ideas that are the same or it’s just a place that is the same, when you come back to them [in the song] it takes you to a different place. I think my favorite is probably the beginning of the second verse. I don’t know why.
CM: We love the beginning of the second verse. It’s our favorite moment.
TM: ‘Cause it’s the moment where there is no impact. It’s the moment where you’re naked. It’s the most melancholic moment. You don’t have to claim anything. You’re really a friend to the person who is listening. And you can just say the most heartbreaking thing.
4 comments:
my god, you should be a philosopher.
however i do recall keeping a diary during those ages (but lets be honest, it was not that long ago was it?!) as well and i never wrote angsty things. it was more like a dull recount of my life... i guess diff'rent strokes for diff'rent folks?
and re: "emotional tampo".... you should get that trademarked, copyrighted or patented or something. it's fantastic
"emotional tampon". modern day poetry.
and "ennui was the colour grey, the people we loved, the thoughts we thought and all the things we had never done but dismissed anyway" - in a totally different way.
and i don't know why we do it - agnst is more fun to write??
Agree with Hurley, definitely a dull recount of life. ahaha what always got me was how to begin an entry - never sure to go with the pedestrian 'dear diary' or just begin with day's events in painful chronology.
Length of Phoenix's interview transcript is too intimidating, ie. didn't read it. However, to be patronising, good work on the rare insightful post!
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